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Meta / Re: My kind of people
« on: August 21, 2008, 08:00:37 AM »

 That's great!! What kind of diet did those Native people have? I hope that you will benefit from being here.


Diet and nutrition / Re: Why do you use the paleo diet?
« on: August 16, 2008, 10:17:29 AM »

 IBD. I have moved slightly from paleo towards low carb,
as I find that even fruits and veggies in high amounts
aggravate my digestion. Check Walter Voegtlinn's book if
you can.


Diet and nutrition / Re: Confused
« on: August 05, 2008, 12:45:55 AM »
Regarding Hawkan's points, I suspect that low carbohydrate, high meat diets are probably fine for all humans; the preferred proportion of carbohydrate in the diet is likely more a matter of personal preference and cultural inheritance than genetics.  If it were genetic, we'd probably expect to much larger differences in intestinal length between human races than we actually see.

 Your point is noted and well taken. Nevertheless, I must
believe that there is a difference in what you are adapted
to eat between an Eskimo where your ancestors relied almost
entirely on meat and someone in a tribe living on a
tropical island with plenty of fruit. One example is that
we know that Japanese people have a big problem handling

 Wasn't this what Weston Price found in his famous study? The basics
may be the same, but regional differences makes us more
or less adapted to certain foods. Noting also that native
people reacted even worse than Westerners when they switched
to modern processed foods reinforces this.

 I think that the Paleo diet is on track with the avoidance
of certain modern foods. Then you should make some adjustments
based on what region of the world you come from. Even 
fermented dairy may be better than too much exotic high GI
fruits and vegetables for people of a Northern descent.


Diet and nutrition / Re: Confused
« on: August 02, 2008, 07:37:00 AM »
That would be good thinking for the neolithic (new stone age) period.  For the paleolithic (old stone age), though, neandertals were the primary humanoids in cold areas, and anthropologists now think that we have little or no neandertal blood. 
The current thinking is that our own ancestors were still in Africa
for most of the paleolithic.
Of course, the anthropologists could be wrong.  Forty years ago, they believed that we were descended from neandertals and cro-magnons were a dead end, the opposite of what they believe today.  Theories could still switch back.

 I find it hard to believe that there would not be
more regional differences in our genetics. The influence
of the Neanderthal on modern Europeans is also a disputed
issue. My guess is that they interbred with modern Cro Magnon man.

There are some contrasts between the "races"
just by the way that we look. If evolution has made the skin
and height of people different depending on where we live,
why would it not change what foods we thrive on? I can't see
that one type of diet necessarily should fit all human beings.

 Perhaps this explains why low carboydrate GI diets seem to
work very well for people with European descent. I also
notice that I usually have a hard time handling tropical
heat, which I find incompatible with a theory saying that
I am genetically set up from an ancestry in Africa.
There must have been mutations since my predecessors left
from there.


Diet and nutrition / Re: Confused
« on: July 31, 2008, 03:58:02 AM »

 I think that you need to take into account what was
actually available to your ancestors in the region of
the world where they lived. I live in Northern Europe and I
would believe that my genetical predecessors lived in
a rather cold climate. That affects my dietary choices.

Hence, tropical fruits would not be part of a Stone Age
Diet for me and I believe that they would have been without
most fruits for long parts of the year. The Neanderthals
were for example known to carry a very low carbohydrate
diet. Even fermented dairy is more similar if you assume
that they took some of the milk out of the carcasses of
their prey.
Nor do I think that a scarce food supply increases the urge
to have carbohydrates. When you are really hungry, don't
you feel the urge for something fatty rather than something
sweet? Eskimos were known to toss away a killed caribou
without enough body fat for them to eat.


Diet and nutrition / Re: Question about snacking
« on: July 26, 2008, 04:57:39 PM »
 You might consider nuts, almonds or fruit. Even eggs
or a veggie might work for you. Just remember to plan to
the stuff that you need. If you get enough fat, you
should note that the desire to have snacks falls as you
reduce your carobhydrate intake with a switch to a Stone Age
dieting regime. You will have better control of your insulin


Diet and nutrition / Re: Where do you get your calories?
« on: July 20, 2008, 06:45:28 PM »

 Thank you for asking us!! I'd say that you can do a lot of things
to replace those calories. Consider these ideas:

 - Eat more meat
 - Add olive oil
 - Add some eggs

 If you are not completely strict with the paleo thing and
do more of a low carbohydrate version, you may also:
 - Add plain buttermilk or yoghurt
 - Eat whole pieces of cheese


Diet and nutrition / Re: Cholesterol? ARGH!
« on: June 04, 2008, 08:43:02 AM »
I'm currently reading 'The Great Cholesterol con' by Dr. Malcolm Kendrick, which is quite an eye opener, and a good 'primer' to other theories and hypotheses as to the causes of Heart Disease.

Dr. Kendrick is staunchly against the 'traditional cholesterol hypothesis' of heart disease, and also questions the use of statins in the treatment and prevention of Cardiovascular disease.

I'm finding the book easy and entertaining to read and would recommend it to anyone wanting to find out more information in this area. :)

 Also check out the web site

Miscellaneous / Re: Isolated tribe spotted in Brazil
« on: June 01, 2008, 10:53:20 AM »

 I hope that they can leave those people alone.


Diet and nutrition / Re: what do you like to drink?
« on: May 30, 2008, 01:20:16 PM »

 Plain water is just fine. You Americans probably want to get to a filter to remove all that chlorine. That should be considerably cheaper than buying bottled water.

Diet and nutrition / Re: is everywhere
« on: May 23, 2008, 01:19:26 PM »

 Consumption of soy is problematic from another important
point of view. The culitvation of soybeans has been linked
to the cutting down of the world's rainforests, especially
the Amazon. You can probably confirm this through several
web sources.

Diet and nutrition / Re: Paleo for Athletes?
« on: May 14, 2008, 12:56:32 PM »

  On an interesting note, Weston Price found that Swiss
athletes living in the mountains drank raw cream. Check out the story
over at
. Perhaps the richness in fat provided lots of energy.

Miscellaneous / Re: New Evidence that Homo Neanderthalis Ate Seeds
« on: May 11, 2008, 03:25:32 AM »

 Interesting. The articles that I have seen stated that
bone analysis had indicated a diet of up to 80-90 % of meat
for the Neanderthals. That's what a web search will get you.
I suppose that you need to relate this to the climate that
they lived in. Only rather few berries, fruits and veggies
could reasonably have been available in Europe in these
colder times.


Diet and nutrition / Re: Unacceptable? (are these foods forbiden?)
« on: May 04, 2008, 06:47:25 AM »
With that said, uncured bacon is acceptable occasionally. If concerned about fat content there is uncured turkey bacon.  There are also nitrate free sausages. Sausages are ground meat and spices and can range from low fat to high fat, depends if you want pork, beef, chicken or turkey sausages.

 You are certainly also right. However, I expect any bacon or sausage purchased
in a grocery store to be illegal as they are either smoked
and/or contains added substances like flour. Look at the list
of ingredients on the package of a commercial sausage. I assume
that the original poster gets his food from supermarkets and
restaurants. Thank you for the discussion.

Diet and nutrition / Re: Unacceptable? (are these foods forbiden?)
« on: May 02, 2008, 09:48:18 AM »
I'd say all those foods are fine as long as you're not putting cream/sugar in the coffee.

Juice, bacon, and sausage are all processed, but I think they're perfectly fine to eat as you transition to a more paleo diet.  After that it's your call if you want to continue including them or not.

 I would have to disagree with this opinion. Any kind
of commercial bacon or sausage will most likely be cured
with nitrites and therefore carcinogenic. Please also check
the ingredients of the sausage that you are thinking about eating.
My guess is that it will have gluten and some other off limit stuff
in it. Juice from a tropical fruit might be OK for a person
of southern European descent, but it does have
a very high glycemic index and might have been sweetened
with sugar. This might be problematic for your insulin.
Voegtlin warns against fruit juices in his Stone Age Diet book.


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